T:Taking my dad out of <institution>	
Q:My dad was put in a <institution> <time_period> ago when my mom went on a cruise,  Everyday he asks us to take him home. 
 We want to bring him to his <location> for the weekend but the <institution> is discouraging us because it might set him back. 
 They have been giving him <medicine> <num> times /day and as needed. 
 They say to us it will get better. 
 He pretty much takes care of himself,  very healthy guy other than alzheimers. 
 We are not concerned at all about us not being able to take care of him outside of the <institution>. 
 They also have in so many words discouraged our visits. 
 We are heartbroken! I just want the best for him. 
 Is it better to leave him there or take him to <location>?	A:When will mom be coming back? Will he get out then?It's funny that both of my parents can't remember that one of us kids visited <day> but they can remembered that we abandoned them. 
 You're writing the checks so you get to decide how to work with dad. 
 On the other hand,  if you take him out for <time_period> and have to put him back in on <day> for <time_period> or so,  I can see how that might stress him even more. 
A:I agree that it isn't normal for the <professional_practitioner> to discourage your visits. 
 No one has ever mentioned that to us even when my Mom complains about being in the <instituion>(that she chose). 
 We took Mom to Her home <num> times but then we stopped since she told several family members,  that if she ever went to Her home again that she would never go back to the Home,  where she is. 
 I know that is true. 
 We feel bad aboutit but she has severe OA,  can barely walk and her memory is awful. 
 As far as your Dad,  if you think that he will go back to the <institution> after his visit to the <location>,  then go for it. 
 Just be prepared that you may end up looking after him until your Mom gets back from her cruise. 
  Alzheimers/Dementia is a very difficult and sad situation for all involved unfortunately. 



A:When my grandmother was in the dementia ward of an <institution>,  they encouraged us to stop in frequently and if we take her out for more than a day,  to just sign her out and sign a release form. 
 They never discouraged in the least to not visit nor take her out. 
 I don't know,  it sounds a bit strange to me that they are doing this. 
 And to say it will get better?  Alzheimer's doesn't get better,  it declines. 
 Sounds like you might want to look into different <institution>. 
  


A: <name>,  you could take your dad other places. 
 When we take Mom out on our visits now,  we go shopping for her clothes and she likes to pick up some fruit and cookies for snacks(she doesn't want theirs). 
 We take her to church,  then to a restaurant and to another place that she would enjoy,  like a museum. 
 We took her to the park,  to the beach,  to visit her friend in another <institution> and last time to a <institution>. 
 The flowers were gorgeous and she bought one for her room. 
 She wouldn't plant' herself in these places since Her home is her destiny(an hour away from <institution>). 
 And she doesn't know how to call a taxi. 
 I gave her a long list of her friends and family members to call and who visit and/or call her. 
 They all know not to take her to Her home. 
  


A:Hi <name>: My sympathy to you and your family with this decision! Was this placement in a <institution> while mom went on a cruise seen as respite or this ended up being the time his room was ready?Do you believe he needs <medicine> <num> plus times per day to calm him down /decrease agitation? That seems excessive ? Taking a family member back to their original home after moving out can making them very confused!  Dad spending time at the <institution> as much as possible . 
 Do they have established activity directors that have programs going during the day? Usually spread out from am and pm. 
 Where they saying your visits were Interfering with him attending activities ?You should be able to visit family as much as you want. 
 <num> days is too early to assess his adjustment there. 
 <time_period> is a better assessment of his progress. 
 I asked these questions because in <date> I placed my father in a beautiful <institution> after caring for him <time_period> in my home. 
 He had been diagnosed with Dementia about <time_period> ago. 
 With that diagnosis came daily confusion,  worsening each day,  increase number of falls,  He also has Parkinson's Syndrome. ,  I quit my job. 
 It had gotten toThe point where he absolutely could not be left alone day or night. 
 I paid <professional_practitioner> to come in and help. 
 My husband and I looked for <institution>. 
 We also applied for <institution>. 
 Benefits under his behalf. 
 We had assistance in completion. 
 It took us about <time_period> 
 To complete. 
 And we are still waiting to hear. 
 It can take <time_period>. 
 That money can be used towards his <institution> or <institution>. 
 At our <institution>,  they do daily activities,  they have bus trips that are for non Alzheimer's patients. 
 On the <institution> floors,  they do activities and bus trips for just their floors. 
 If the mom or dad is constantly takenFrom the <institution> by a family member,  they have no time to enjoy and build relationships. 
 At this time,  my dad is in a <institution> and <institution>. 
 (which is attached to his old unit) I hope he gets strong enough to go back to his old room in <institution>. 
 He fell <num> times in <time_period> . 
 That's why he is in rehab now. 
 Good days/ bad days/ good memories and full on dementia when he doesn't remember what he had for lunch <num> HR before. 
 I yearn for our old relationship back! Not to be now. 
 Taking <num> moment at a time. 
 I got a little of where you are coming from. 
 


A:I know that this is a few weeks since this was posted,  but I agree with others - this <institution> tactics are raising a big warning flag to me. 
 My father was in an <institution> and they encouraged visits and the family taking him out for anything he felt like doing. 
 The only thing that kept us from overnight visits was his need for medical equipment (for other ailments) at the unit that we couldn't take with us. 
  Before my father was seen by a <professional_practitioner> and diagnosed,  my father was put on <medicine> by my sibling's <professional_practitioner>,  who had seen him briefly while he was staying with this sibling. 
 He became uncontrollable and far worse,  and I and another sibling took him off of it as soon as he was back with us. 
 It may help some patients,  but it made things worse for my father. 
  
